The Value of Defiance

Asking questions is the most reoccurring habit of a rational being and defiance is asking “why should I?”. To never challenge the systems that be is to never have hope for the future. To not have hope is to not willingly pursue a better system and chances are your not in the best system there could be.

Here are the three cultural laws that I saw on a documentary advocating the abolition of copy right laws:

1. Culture builds on the past

2. The past culture will try to stop the next from taking control

3. The new culture will be suppressed and the amount of suppression will increase until enough tension builds for a revolution.

To give an example of a cultural revolution I’ll point to the American sexual revolution which I feel fundamentally altered the character of civil society and reached-out much farther than just America. It brought with it a new social tolerance an open-mindedness leading into a huge reformation of common society. There always seems to be an evident tension point before these revolutions and, from my observation, I think we have now reached another tension point and a huge cultural revolution is eminent within this next decade.

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There is a sibling to defiance; action. To not just ask why but then do something about it if there is no rational answer to the why. I, for one, am going to make quite the ruckus in the coming years, I wish to be known as the voice of the youth; the biggest advocate of intellectual defiance in the world. I’ve had it with this world being dominated by the savage, idiotic and morally bankrupt. It’s time for revolution, a revolution of the mind, of the moral, it’s time for a second Renaissance, the largest cultural revolution in history. The Renaissance was a serious over-hauling of society that profoundly affected European intellectual life and catapulted us into the modern age. Its influence affected philosophy, literature, art, politics, science, religion, and other aspects of intellectual inquiry. The Renaissance was the humanist revolution, as opposed to the dominating Christian doctrine of the Dark Ages.

I want my Mars plantation NAO!

We are still not functioning at our full capacity, the world is still full of tyrants and those who wish to suppress your mind and your bodies to enforce their will over your own. It’s time we take a stand and fight for true equality(not to be confused with levelism), freedom and  justice. It’s time we stop submitting our minds and start acting like free-thinkers. It’s time for revolution, it’s time for defiance.

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8 Responses to “The Value of Defiance”

  1. I agree with a few of your points, such as the fact that there is always a “calm before the storm” so to speak before a major revolution, but I ask, what makes you so sure that revolution is always good? Any major revolution will profoundly impact society, even far into the future. How has the so-called “Sexual Revolution” in any way bettered Western society?

    You are also correct that we are in the middle of a “tension point” before another revolution. Here’s a question though (just for fun) – who’s pulling the strings behind it?

    Do you believe that the current liberal, Modernist (the philosophy, not modernizing) trend in the West is good?

    Do you by any chance believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack, and that the so-called “Holocaust” of the sacred six million “Jews” occurred? (Seemingly random questions, but I’m just wondering)

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    The Renaissance didn’t even initially affect most of Europe. It was concentrated in Italy. How were the “Christian Dark Ages” dark at all? First of all, if you’re going to pin the blame on someone, at least do it unambiguously. Up until the 16th century (which is around the time of the Renaissance I believe) – the only two Christian churches were the Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox church. Now, technically, its 100% correct to call the Catholic Church “Christian”, but nowadays, the term “Christian” has been used as a blanket term to denote 1,000+ Protestant churches, completely separate from each other with no central authority or final word. So if you want to blame the “Dark Ages” on Christianity, at least identify the culprit as the Roman Catholic Church (personally, Christian Church is fine with me, but as I said, nowadays, it has to many different and ambiguous connotations to be used in saecular circles).

    Let’s further examine this myth of a Catholic Dark Age. We all know that the classical period ended with the fall of the Western Roman Empire. To create an idea of the power vacuum, and the intellectual and cultural vacuum this would have created, try to imagine all of North America falling into ruin except for Mexico. Would you blame it on the Mexicans if for the next few hundred years, North America was an intellectual and cultural waste land?

    But that wasn’t even the case in the Middle Ages — in the Middle Ages, Catholic Europe was anything but a vacuum like that imaginary scenario would be like! During the Middle Ages, the Roman Catholic Church ALONE preserved scientific, philosophical, etc knowledge in the West. The writings of the Greeks and the Romans were preserved, Aristotle was studied in the first universities ever founded in the West (these universities were also founded by the Roman Catholic Church), Latin was preserved through the liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church, and to this day, in all of Her official documents, the Roman church uses only Latin.

    I’d be careful to blame anything about the Catholic Church suppressing knowledge or philosophy during this time, considering that St. Albertus Magnus, St. Anselm, and St. Thomas Aquinas all lived during this time, and are among history’s greatest minds.

    The seeds of scientific discovery were also sown during this time of supposed religious oppression. Without the foundation laid during the Middle Ages, where would we have been today?

    Lastly, if you know anything about history, its that art-religion-society form an inseparable ring. What happens to one directly affects the other two. Now, tell me, what kind of barbarians build the magnificent churches and cathedrals that were built during the Middle Ages (your so called “Dark Ages)? Notre Dame, the cathedral of Milan, Mont St. Michel just to name a few.

    I’ve completely lost my train of thought…but I think you get the idea. Roman Catholic Church ALONE rebuilt Western culture after the Fall of Rome – so give credit where credit is due. 😉

  2. Firstly, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to post your comment.

    Next, “Do you believe that the current liberal, Modernist (the philosophy, not modernizing) trend in the West is good?”
    I am no Liberal as your about to find out in my next post. But I do very much agree with the critical questioning of tradition and status quo.

    “Do you by any chance believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack, and that the so-called “Holocaust” of the sacred six million “Jews” occurred? (Seemingly random questions, but I’m just wondering)”
    I don’t take easily to conspiracy theories, it seems to religious.

    “The Renaissance didn’t even initially affect most of Europe. It was concentrated in Italy. How were the “Christian Dark Ages” dark at all? First of all, if you’re going to pin the blame on someone, at least do it unambiguously. Up until the 16th century (which is around the time of the Renaissance I believe) – the only two Christian churches were the Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox church. Now, technically, its 100% correct to call the Catholic Church “Christian”, but nowadays, the term “Christian” has been used as a blanket term to denote 1,000+ Protestant churches, completely separate from each other with no central authority or final word. So if you want to blame the “Dark Ages” on Christianity, at least identify the culprit as the Roman Catholic Church (personally, Christian Church is fine with me, but as I said, nowadays, it has to many different and ambiguous connotations to be used in saecular circles).”
    The Christians, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, New Agers, they are all the same to me, they advice the same moral and intellectual system in different manners.

    “Let’s further examine this myth of a Catholic Dark Age. We all know that the classical period ended with the fall of the Western Roman Empire. To create an idea of the power vacuum, and the intellectual and cultural vacuum this would have created, try to imagine all of North America falling into ruin except for Mexico. Would you blame it on the Mexicans if for the next few hundred years, North America was an intellectual and cultural waste land?”
    I’m sorry but I’m not getting you analogy. But anyway, if you think the Dark Ages were just sunshine and lollipops, and something remarkable didn’t happen during the Renaissance, which was caused by defying the previous order, I’m afraid your a little confused.

    “During the Middle Ages, the Roman Catholic Church ALONE preserved scientific, philosophical, etc”
    Oh, wow. I don’t want this to come off wrong in any way but that’s a very trouble statement, you need to do some more research and not just take people word for things. The Church’s worst problem was killing off all the smart people. Anyone who disagreed with their dogma was quickly silenced. They preserved lots of things yes, but only things of religious significance that could agree with them. Some individual monks, realizing the importance of some documents, actually had to hide them from the church.

    “I’d be careful to blame anything about the Catholic Church suppressing knowledge or philosophy during this time, considering that St. Albertus Magnus, St. Anselm, and St. Thomas Aquinas all lived during this time, and are among history’s greatest minds.”
    That’s a personal opinion and, again, they were only heard because the church agreed with them.

    “The seeds of scientific discovery were also sown during this time of supposed religious oppression. Without the foundation laid during the Middle Ages, where would we have been today?”
    Supposed religious oppression? People were being burned at the stake, imprisoned, branded, beaten, tortured in many different ways, senseless killing was rampant and all because they didn’t match up with the churches idea of what’s right! It was a horrible and tragic time in human history! Now I ask you; imagine where we would be if it never happened.

    “Lastly, if you know anything about history, its that art-religion-society form an inseparable ring. What happens to one directly affects the other two. Now, tell me, what kind of barbarians build the magnificent churches and cathedrals that were built during the Middle Ages (your so called “Dark Ages)? Notre Dame, the cathedral of Milan, Mont St. Michel just to name a few.”
    The barbarians who would steal all that money trough taxation, intimidation, and religious brain-wash to do it. Pretty buildings don’t say much about the morality of a people. Also, it’s not an “art-religion-society” ring, it’s an art-philosophy-society ring.

    “Iv’e completely lost my train of thought…but I think you get the idea. Roman Catholic Church ALONE rebuilt Western culture after the Fall of Rome – so give credit where credit is due.”
    The only people are credited with the relinquishing of us from that dreadful time were those who dared to do things differently, those who defied the misguided authority.

  3. G.B.N.T.D. Says:

    (same poster as above)

    “I am no Liberal as your about to find out in my next post. But I do very much agree with the critical questioning of tradition and status quo.”

    I’d glad we agree.

    “I don’t take easily to conspiracy theories, it seems to religious. ”

    By definition, both the official stories of 9/11 and the Holocaust ARE conspiracy theories. I’d just like to point out that in the case of 9/11, you can prove the official story wrong just with science. In the case of the latter, the official Holocaust story is to suspicious and reeks of a religion to be taken seriously by anyone with a brain.

    I thought you might like Michael Hoffman’s blog, since he to is rather a rebel against the Establishment regime that rules the world.
    http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/

    (Of course, he’s older and professional)

    “The Christians, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, New Agers, they are all the same to me, they advice the same moral and intellectual system in different manners.”

    That’s pure nonsense. All of them claim to be the true religion. But its a logical impossibility that they all are. Only one can be true. Also the morals and philosophy espoused by each differ widely.

    “I’m sorry but I’m not getting you analogy. But anyway, if you think the Dark Ages were just sunshine and lollipops, and something remarkable didn’t happen during the Renaissance, which was caused by defying the previous order, I’m afraid your a little confused.”

    The picture in your post blames the intellectual vacuum (real or imagined) of the Middle Ages on Christianity. The truth would be that it was the combined factors of the fall of Rome, barbarian invasions, etc.
    I don’t think the Middle Ages (get it right at least, even anti-Catholic historians use the term “Dark Ages” only for the Early Middle Ages, not the entire Middle Age) were all good. Just that it wasn’t the cultural vacuum that that poster makes it out to be. Renaissance was the result of the humanist undercurrent that was always present in the Mid. Ages…not denying that.

    “Oh, wow. I don’t want this to come off wrong in any way but that’s a very trouble statement, you need to do some more research and not just take people word for things. The Church’s worst problem was killing off all the smart people. Anyone who disagreed with their dogma was quickly silenced. They preserved lots of things yes, but only things of religious significance that could agree with them. Some individual monks, realizing the importance of some documents, actually had to hide them from the church.”

    Aristotle contains various teachings that are condemned as heretical by the Catholic Church. Why were his writings preserved and studied? Can you cite an instance of monks hiding documents from the Church? What about silencing of dissenters? I’d like to hear what you think about the Inquisitions.

    “That’s a personal opinion and, again, they were only heard because the church agreed with them.”

    Others were heard and debated as well.

    “Supposed religious oppression? People were being burned at the stake, imprisoned, branded, beaten, tortured in many different ways, senseless killing was rampant and all because they didn’t match up with the churches idea of what’s right! It was a horrible and tragic time in human history! Now I ask you; imagine where we would be if it never happened.”

    I’m sorry but its time that you stopped taking people’s word for things. If unjust murders were so rampant, then you should be able to cite many examples. I suppose you’ll bring up the Inquisitions, so please, go into detail about that.

    “The barbarians who would steal all that money trough taxation, intimidation, and religious brain-wash to do it. Pretty buildings don’t say much about the morality of a people. Also, it’s not an “art-religion-society” ring, it’s an art-philosophy-society ring.”

    Philosophy and religion are inseparable. Highly complex buildings DO say something about the intelligence of people though.

    “The only people are credited with the relinquishing of us from that dreadful time were those who dared to do things differently, those who defied the misguided authority.”

    Like who?

  4. “That’s pure nonsense. All of them claim to be the true religion. But its a logical impossibility that they all are. Only one can be true. Also the morals and philosophy espoused by each differ widely.”
    First, I was not implying that they were all correct, rather that they are all wrong and all advise a similar moral system. Second, you say only one can be true, but also you over look that none may be true as well.

    “Aristotle contains various teachings that are condemned as heretical by the Catholic Church. Why were his writings preserved and studied? Can you cite an instance of monks hiding documents from the Church? What about silencing of dissenters? I’d like to hear what you think about the Inquisitions.”
    Do you think the church is the only one who would be able to have control of such documents? There would had to have been other sources. And I’ve seen the facts before concerning the monks but I’m simply not that good at googling to find them, sorry, I did try.

    “I’m sorry but its time that you stopped taking people’s word for things. If unjust murders were so rampant, then you should be able to cite many examples. I suppose you’ll bring up the Inquisitions, so please, go into detail about that.”
    Obviously you’ve heard of the inquisitions, so do not agree that they happened?

    Philosophy and religion are inseparable. Highly complex buildings DO say something about the intelligence of people though.
    I have a philosophy but do not have religion. Tu-duh! They are separable. Your philosophy is just your moral and intellectual beliefs. Religion is actually prescribing to a certain organized system of philosophy with required dogma among other things. And about the buildings; you should go to China I here it’s a nice place with all there big buildings and such.

    Like who?
    Off the top of my head; Galileo Galilei, Leonardo da Vinci, Francesco Petrarca, there are many more. Disagreeing on philosophy is one thing, but are you really going so far to try and erase history? Can you truly tell me that the Catholic church has not committed horrible acts against science and humanity in general?

  5. First, I was not implying that they were all correct, rather that they are all wrong and all advise a similar moral system. Second, you say only one can be true, but also you over look that none may be true as well.
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    Nope, didn’t look over that. They don’t all advise a similar moral system.
    +++
    Do you think the church is the only one who would be able to have control of such documents? There would had to have been other sources. And I’ve seen the facts before concerning the monks but I’m simply not that good at googling to find them, sorry, I did try.
    +++
    Nope. The Church was the only one that CARED about preserving knowledge.
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    “Supposed religious oppression? People were being burned at the stake, imprisoned, branded, beaten, tortured in many different ways, senseless killing was rampant and all because they didn’t match up with the churches idea of what’s right! It was a horrible and tragic time in human
    history! Now I ask you; imagine where we would be if it never happened.”
    +++

    Please give me one source for all those things you described. No, give me 50 since it was so common according to you (mass massacres don’t count). Plus the Church never executed anyone – the Catholic Church just gave them a fair trial, and gave them to the State to do what the State wanted (set free, imprison or execute).

    +++

    Obviously you’ve heard of the inquisitions, so do not agree that they happened?
    +++

    They “happened” – but answer the question, what were they?

    +++

    Philosophy and religion are inseparable. Highly complex buildings DO say something about the intelligence of people though.
    I have a philosophy but do not have religion. Tu-duh! They are separable. Your philosophy is just your moral and intellectual beliefs. Religion is actually prescribing to a certain organized system of philosophy with required dogma among other things. And about the buildings; you should go to China I here it’s a nice place with all there big buildings and such.
    +++

    Who was your philosophy teacher btw? Or did you learn it off the internet?

    I have been to China. Hong Kong at least. 😉

    +++

    Like who?
    Off the top of my head; Galileo Galilei, Leonardo da Vinci, Francesco Petrarca, there are many more. Disagreeing on philosophy is one thing, but are you really going so far to try and erase history? Can you truly tell me that the Catholic church has not committed horrible acts against science and humanity in general?

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    The fact that you even included Galileo on that list is embarassing. The Catholic Church has never commited horrible crimes against anyone…maybe certain individual Catholics have (not in the cases that you brought up), but not the Church.

    tell you what, if this your position is so logical and anyone can come to the truth by reading with an open mind your arguments, I’d like you to post on this forum where I post regularly as “Vladimir”. The website is:

    http://www.cathinfo.com

    If you’ve posted on the past on various Protestant forums and have been disappointed with the anti-intellectual sheep like members, I give you my word, you’ll find more than your fair share of intellectuals there. See you on CathInfo.

  6. “Nope, didn’t look over that. They don’t all advise a similar moral system.”

    They all advice a system of faith and sacrifice for the “greater good”, as it is called.
    ___

    “Nope. The Church was the only one that CARED about preserving knowledge.”

    That’s outrageous, I think you should have thought a little longer on that one.
    ___

    “Please give me one source for all those things you described. No, give me 50 since it was so common according to you (mass massacres don’t count). Plus the Church never executed anyone – the Catholic Church just gave them a fair trial, and gave them to the State to do what the State wanted (set free, imprison or execute).”

    Mass massacres don’t count?! Oh, golly-gee, ok, we’ll just forget about those. Not.
    Torture: Pope Innocent IV’s papal bull Ad exstirpanda of 1252 authorized the use of torture in investigating heresy.
    Execution: Ask any historian, thousands of so called “witches” were executed, many burned at the stake, during the inquisitions which were a method of silencing and/or disposing of those who disagreed with the Church, introduced by Pope Gregory the IX in 1232.
    More carnage: One word; crusades. It happened.
    I’ve debated with many people from every corner of the internet and your the first one I’ve heard dismiss the atrocities of the Catholic Church. Stop being so closed-minded and have some self-honesty.
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    “They “happened” – but answer the question, what were they?”

    I’ve already said what has happened but I’ll try to sum it up. The inquisitions were a wave of efforts that the Catholic Church instituted to suppress what they deemed as “heresy”.
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    “Who was your philosophy teacher btw? Or did you learn it off the internet?”

    All my philosophical ideas are my own. I spend countless hours every day pacing back and forth deep in the woods trying to rationalize everything that comes to mind.
    ___

    “I have been to China. Hong Kong at least. ”

    Just so you know, Hong Kong is a lot different than the rest of China. It’s partially an independent nation and is ranked #1 in the world for economic freedom.

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    “The fact that you even included Galileo on that list is embarassing. The Catholic Church has never commited horrible crimes against anyone…maybe certain individual Catholics have (not in the cases that you brought up), but not the Church.”

    How is it embarrassing? You asked what brilliant minds stood up to the Catholic church and brought us to better times, as I had stated. Galileo stood up to the Church and—guess what?!— it turns out he was right!
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    “tell you what, if this your position is so logical and anyone can come to the truth by reading with an open mind your arguments, I’d like you to post on this forum where I post regularly as “Vladimir”. The website is:”

    I’m being honest here, I have way to many forums and such to keep track of already. But thanks.
    ___

    “If you’ve posted on the past on various Protestant forums and have been disappointed with the anti-intellectual sheep like members, I give you my word, you’ll find more than your fair share of intellectuals there. See you on CathInfo.”

    I would rather be a protestant that a Catholic. They actually go by the bible instead of some old guy with a big hat.

  7. Did you sign up on CathInfo? I saw a member there “Feedo” but it had a bunch of symbols in between the F and the first e, so I assume it was code for the backwards “R”. 🙂

  8. I tried to but it wouldn’t let me, some kind of error.

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